Hi Nathan; Not at present will be released in a few weeks’ time when the testing is complete.
Jim
3 days ago
Hi all,
Is the DHPROT2-LIVE a laying system.
Regards
Jim
ps Have you a forum where we could discuss systems and ideas.The software has always been good but now you have added so much to it and projected it into the stratosphere for analysis and really turned it into one of the best value for money racing products available.
Hi Jim, thank you for your comments, much appreciated!! At present, none of the systems are designed for Lay betting. Lay betting is currently under test and will be released later this year if the results are in our favour. Please feel free to discuss any systems and ideas on this message board. Thanks again
The DHPROT2-LIVE and the DHPROT3-LIVE are NOT designed to be bet on every race. They are provided because users requested that they are available as selections where they can be downloaded and fed into TBM or 3rd party bots.The results are shown for transparency. There are plenty of angles you can use on the DHPRO selections. The DHPROFILTER1 and DHPROFILTER2 are great examples of this. You can use the Selection Hunter Cross Over Feature in TSM to investigate your own angles and create your own systems based around the DHPRO selections.
Thanks Dave and Admin for the great replies .I am doing a lot of stuff based on trainer patterns at the moment with the aid of selection hunter and my own database .Anything promising I will post up on here.
Regards
Jim
It was still being tested in TBM. I’ve now made it public. Refresh the Tipster Screen in TBM. Make sure you load the accompanying settings file in TBM which includes the HHI Criteria and Odds Range. Then adjust the settings for your own preferences.
David
27 days ago
Thanks, Dave. That makes sense, and I appreciate the explanation. It’s reassuring to know the bigger-priced winners have appeared consistently over the years and that the ratings are designed to look beyond the obvious favourites.
Hi David, hope all is going well for you. Over the years of running this and similar projects you will find high priced winners fall in on a regular basis. This is what makes our ratings and 3X3 unique, they are designed and weighted not to always find the odds on favourite. I have confidence Phil’s big find is not a one off. Thanks as always for the interest shown Dave
phil
1 month ago
Hi David conducting my test top 3 off column G. doing them as 3 4 or5th fav OR 678th favs the 345 made 20 units profit , GET THIS ! the 678 th fav min odds 12 made 127 units profit with that big one Sunday (yesterday) clearly 345th not the one thats conclusive. Oh ? , trying 6789th too waiting to see. Dividing them up in this manner makes it much easier to seperate the wheat from the chaf I find and see whats what. Well done Phil
Hi David, many thanks for your valued comments. Very pleased we are helping with the selection process and the positive outcomes. The EW value is not up to the standards that I require, it will return when the new testing is complete. Thanks again and do not hesitate to comment if I can help.. Dave
phil
1 month ago
Dave !? , promise me 1 thing – as time goes by keep same search criteria for these ! , its cruising and a tweak might put a spanner in works – it would also skew my results. Keep up the good work ! Phil
Hi, very pleasing to hear and thanks for the comments; makes it all worthwhile!! If it works, I will never change or tweak anything without letting you all know.
phil
1 month ago
Hi I set AI to pick top 3 in green on column G but changed it to top 3 (not green anymore) caught me out. Anyway sorted that. Yes a process of elimination see which section of favs 3 to 12th make the most. Blindly doing the lot had a sweet spot between 6.00 and 12.00 and over 30 also. Lets set the eel traps see which one catches the most !
Hi ok conducting test. On bot. 3 ways. 1st fav position 3 or 4 or 5. Next Fav position 6 or 7 or 8 lastly fav position 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 (max 12 runners let the data cut its own path
There are many ways to use the cards and ratings; paper testing is always the way forward;
Try, as I have said before, small fields 10 or less then use the 3X3 to see if there is any value in the top 3, if not move on. Hope this helps
Here is one I did today, nice small field and a decent price for VANILLA SKIES that was in the top 3 after taking out NR’s won @ 9.61. A matter of opinion, but seemed good value to me.
Hi two things to point out ?? that is 777 or close to winner last week (went off 1000/1 BSP)on 3X3 not mentioned ?? , and Sunday I did the lot recorded on a bot no 90/1 winner the nearest to 90 was a 76/1 which lost on mine (all 3 done) all races there are. Thanx Phil
From Dave Admin (Not Dave H) – The 1000 BSP winner was mentioned on the feed at the time and the next day. Also shows up in the Results for DHPROT3-LIVE as it was from that part of the card.
Getaway Vic was a non runner in the 1443 Hexham on 21st. The 90 BSP winner was Dolly Dior which moved up to 3rd on one of the cards.
Hi Roy, No, I use the ratings 3X3 and trust the top 3, having said that, it could be an angle to test. Thanks for the question/comment
Dave
1 month ago
Can see that you suggest a focus on value / races with ten or less runners, and with that in mind there are a plenty of small fields today. Some races look playable and others not to my untrained eye.
Without giving anything away, would you mind simply indicating which races you eventually play and which are swerved?
I’d find it useful to confirm I’m on the right track or need to look a bit deeper.
Hi Dave, I will post up races for this afternoon to consider. IMO, keep an eye on the “NEWS FEED” No issues helping Dave, the only thing I can’t share is how the stats are derived.
Thanks, will watch with interest.
I had five races marked as probable and three as possible.
One of the possible’s was Ponty 2.05 (Instant Bond top x2 at a price, but 11 runners)
Dave, you’re getting it very well; great call on the 205 I had it myself but didn’t post it due to numbers in the race. You are definitely on the right track. Hate being a so-called tipster, as I want the members to win and enjoy the system
Interesting that the profit was in the possibles where a horse only figured once or twice (Sugar Sugar aside at a very decent price)
So I’m thinking double top rated irrespective of runners if the price is right and for those mentioned once they’re a play if Betty say over 25.
Sound reasoning Dave, more often than not the runner appears 3 times and I take confidence from that. As I have said, there are so many options but TBH I keep things simple. Are you the Dave interested in the Greyhounds as well??
Hi Roy, Thanks for the question. I work on value; I will sometimes back all 3 if the odds allow. The new Pro card will have guidance to point to a strong selection. The Pro card will be released in late June when testing is complete. Hope this helps. Dave H
The HHI Index allows us to filter out uncompetitive markets where the favourites will be over backed and offer zero value. Example: When backing favourites and applying a HHI Index of less than 0.3 to the DHBL Selections we get a selection system with a 34% Strike Rate and a healthy 18% Edge. Putting the data into TSM we can see the average odds are 3.65 with average winning odds of 3.45. We are avoiding the favourites that offer zero value. This is an option I will be following going forwards in our sister software The Bet Machine. (TBM has the HHI Index available as a criteria option so that only selections will be placed where the current market is as per my HHI Index Criteria).
New GH systems look very promising (and very consistent). Are these something that can be accessed now; if not, when are you planning to go live?
Hi Nathan; Not at present will be released in a few weeks’ time when the testing is complete.
Hi all,
Is the DHPROT2-LIVE a laying system.
Regards
Jim
ps Have you a forum where we could discuss systems and ideas.The software has always been good but now you have added so much to it and projected it into the stratosphere for analysis and really turned it into one of the best value for money racing products available.
Hi Jim, thank you for your comments, much appreciated!! At present, none of the systems are designed for Lay betting. Lay betting is currently under test and will be released later this year if the results are in our favour. Please feel free to discuss any systems and ideas on this message board. Thanks again
The DHPROT2-LIVE and the DHPROT3-LIVE are NOT designed to be bet on every race. They are provided because users requested that they are available as selections where they can be downloaded and fed into TBM or 3rd party bots.The results are shown for transparency. There are plenty of angles you can use on the DHPRO selections. The DHPROFILTER1 and DHPROFILTER2 are great examples of this. You can use the Selection Hunter Cross Over Feature in TSM to investigate your own angles and create your own systems based around the DHPRO selections.
Thanks Dave and Admin for the great replies .I am doing a lot of stuff based on trainer patterns at the moment with the aid of selection hunter and my own database .Anything promising I will post up on here.
Regards
Jim
No worries and very good luck
I can’t seem to find GH10DHT15 in Tipster in TBM. Any ideas why?
It was still being tested in TBM. I’ve now made it public. Refresh the Tipster Screen in TBM. Make sure you load the accompanying settings file in TBM which includes the HHI Criteria and Odds Range. Then adjust the settings for your own preferences.
Thanks, Dave. That makes sense, and I appreciate the explanation. It’s reassuring to know the bigger-priced winners have appeared consistently over the years and that the ratings are designed to look beyond the obvious favourites.
No worries, nice one last evening in the 1810;
Interesting results, Phil. It’ll be good to see how it performs over a larger sample once the big-priced winner has less influence on the figures.
Hi David, hope all is going well for you. Over the years of running this and similar projects you will find high priced winners fall in on a regular basis. This is what makes our ratings and 3X3 unique, they are designed and weighted not to always find the odds on favourite. I have confidence Phil’s big find is not a one off. Thanks as always for the interest shown Dave
Hi David conducting my test top 3 off column G. doing them as 3 4 or5th fav OR 678th favs the 345 made 20 units profit , GET THIS ! the 678 th fav min odds 12 made 127 units profit with that big one Sunday (yesterday) clearly 345th not the one thats conclusive. Oh ? , trying 6789th too waiting to see. Dividing them up in this manner makes it much easier to seperate the wheat from the chaf I find and see whats what. Well done Phil
Really good news and so pleased to hear members are getting to grips with cards and in particular the 3X3; Keep us informed!!
Hi,
I’m really enjoying what you’re doing. It’s helped me narrow down my selections, and I’ve already had some positive results, so thank you.
I was just wondering, as I’m still fairly new here, why the EW Value doesn’t seem to be available to download. Is there a reason it’s not included?
Thanks in advance.
Hi David, many thanks for your valued comments. Very pleased we are helping with the selection process and the positive outcomes. The EW value is not up to the standards that I require, it will return when the new testing is complete. Thanks again and do not hesitate to comment if I can help.. Dave
Dave !? , promise me 1 thing – as time goes by keep same search criteria for these ! , its cruising and a tweak might put a spanner in works – it would also skew my results. Keep up the good work ! Phil
Hi, very pleasing to hear and thanks for the comments; makes it all worthwhile!! If it works, I will never change or tweak anything without letting you all know.
Hi I set AI to pick top 3 in green on column G but changed it to top 3 (not green anymore) caught me out. Anyway sorted that. Yes a process of elimination see which section of favs 3 to 12th make the most. Blindly doing the lot had a sweet spot between 6.00 and 12.00 and over 30 also. Lets set the eel traps see which one catches the most !
Fingers crossed
Hi ok conducting test. On bot. 3 ways. 1st fav position 3 or 4 or 5. Next Fav position 6 or 7 or 8 lastly fav position 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 (max 12 runners let the data cut its own path
Hope it works for you
Hi are there any “ball park settings” for this or is it just put them in find your own eventual method ??…………………
There are many ways to use the cards and ratings; paper testing is always the way forward;
Try, as I have said before, small fields 10 or less then use the 3X3 to see if there is any value in the top 3, if not move on. Hope this helps
Hi so 10 or less runners selections must be 1st or 2nd or 3rd fav to clarify ?
No, favourite status does not influence selections. See below example.
Here is one I did today, nice small field and a decent price for VANILLA SKIES that was in the top 3 after taking out NR’s won @ 9.61. A matter of opinion, but seemed good value to me.
FENLANDER won @ 1.76 so we did well to move on!!
Hi two things to point out ?? that is 777 or close to winner last week (went off 1000/1 BSP)on 3X3 not mentioned ?? , and Sunday I did the lot recorded on a bot no 90/1 winner the nearest to 90 was a 76/1 which lost on mine (all 3 done) all races there are. Thanx Phil
From Dave Admin (Not Dave H) – The 1000 BSP winner was mentioned on the feed at the time and the next day. Also shows up in the Results for DHPROT3-LIVE as it was from that part of the card.
Getaway Vic was a non runner in the 1443 Hexham on 21st. The 90 BSP winner was Dolly Dior which moved up to 3rd on one of the cards.
Ah thanks for that . There is a next best horse to use if non runner
Yes, just moves up in the list
hi, backing in handicaps only ?
Hi Roy, No, I use the ratings 3X3 and trust the top 3, having said that, it could be an angle to test. Thanks for the question/comment
Can see that you suggest a focus on value / races with ten or less runners, and with that in mind there are a plenty of small fields today. Some races look playable and others not to my untrained eye.
Without giving anything away, would you mind simply indicating which races you eventually play and which are swerved?
I’d find it useful to confirm I’m on the right track or need to look a bit deeper.
Hi Dave, I will post up races for this afternoon to consider. IMO, keep an eye on the “NEWS FEED” No issues helping Dave, the only thing I can’t share is how the stats are derived.
Thanks, will watch with interest.
I had five races marked as probable and three as possible.
One of the possible’s was Ponty 2.05 (Instant Bond top x2 at a price, but 11 runners)
Dave, you’re getting it very well; great call on the 205 I had it myself but didn’t post it due to numbers in the race. You are definitely on the right track. Hate being a so-called tipster, as I want the members to win and enjoy the system
Nicely done Debrief in the 1426
What’s the view on Hexham’s 4.13?
Only five runners and Buddah Castle (3×3) @16
Yes, looks to me like a sound investment, below my idea to bet. Take the loss if Fav wins;
Thanks for the insight today.
Interesting that the profit was in the possibles where a horse only figured once or twice (Sugar Sugar aside at a very decent price)
So I’m thinking double top rated irrespective of runners if the price is right and for those mentioned once they’re a play if Betty say over 25.
Sound reasoning Dave, more often than not the runner appears 3 times and I take confidence from that. As I have said, there are so many options but TBH I keep things simple. Are you the Dave interested in the Greyhounds as well??
No, that must be someone else.
Dear Dave, You speak about the new GH Pro card, but I cannot find a download for it, so can you tell me where it is please
Hi Ken, The new Greyhound PRO card is under test and will be released if all goes well at the end of June
Very interested in the Pro cards for the greyhounds
Thanks Ken, will add you to the list for updating
Dave H
Hi, 3 best picks in one dog race
which to back?
thanks
roy
Hi Roy, Thanks for the question. I work on value; I will sometimes back all 3 if the odds allow. The new Pro card will have guidance to point to a strong selection. The Pro card will be released in late June when testing is complete. Hope this helps. Dave H
DA PRO CARD greyhound example bet from 1242 RACE
The HHI Index allows us to filter out uncompetitive markets where the favourites will be over backed and offer zero value. Example: When backing favourites and applying a HHI Index of less than 0.3 to the DHBL Selections we get a selection system with a 34% Strike Rate and a healthy 18% Edge. Putting the data into TSM we can see the average odds are 3.65 with average winning odds of 3.45. We are avoiding the favourites that offer zero value. This is an option I will be following going forwards in our sister software The Bet Machine. (TBM has the HHI Index available as a criteria option so that only selections will be placed where the current market is as per my HHI Index Criteria).
This system has now been added as DHBL ALT1